In this issue, I stand with Scott Alexander. What you describe is Modern Civilization, which is time-centered rather than space-centered.
Western Civilization was born with the Carolingian Empire and grew with its heirs, and died with the Industrial, Scientific, Glorious, and French Revolutions.
In what was Western civilization, the body was believed to have four humors, philosophers believed in the Ptolemaic model, and so on.
noteworthy not only to his neo-neo-conservative champions that Rubio’s Greece speech only glancingly referred to the buzz words “democracy” and “freedom” (I think both were used twice). I suspect Biden will be the last Democratic president to refer to the concept of the West to refer to NATO etc with his successor probably just describing “allies” or “the democracies” (already Biden already stressed the “democracy vs autocracy” frame, and is underdiscussed as the founder of the “oligarchy” discourse (in his Farewell Address, this framing has had a not dissimilar impact in framing Trump 2 as Timothy Snyder did Trump 1, among the centre-left))
As I recently read Bruno Latour’s We Have Never Been Modern, I think “the West” fits rather neatly into Latour’s definition of modernity, whether you accept his “constitution” or not. It’s a revolutionary vision. It has contradictions embedded in it. I tend to think of the Right, broadly speaking, as antimodern and reactionary. But as you’ve written, the right is a confused mix of right-modernists like Andreesen and right-antimodernists like the others (who I haven’t read and don’t know that much about, so there are probably more factions). But there are both left and right modernists who want to spread the Western revolution, right?
In this issue, I stand with Scott Alexander. What you describe is Modern Civilization, which is time-centered rather than space-centered.
Western Civilization was born with the Carolingian Empire and grew with its heirs, and died with the Industrial, Scientific, Glorious, and French Revolutions.
In what was Western civilization, the body was believed to have four humors, philosophers believed in the Ptolemaic model, and so on.
Where did he write about that?
noteworthy not only to his neo-neo-conservative champions that Rubio’s Greece speech only glancingly referred to the buzz words “democracy” and “freedom” (I think both were used twice). I suspect Biden will be the last Democratic president to refer to the concept of the West to refer to NATO etc with his successor probably just describing “allies” or “the democracies” (already Biden already stressed the “democracy vs autocracy” frame, and is underdiscussed as the founder of the “oligarchy” discourse (in his Farewell Address, this framing has had a not dissimilar impact in framing Trump 2 as Timothy Snyder did Trump 1, among the centre-left))
Sure, let’s use a picture of Dugin, the intellectual bankrupt Russian genocidal fascist… to make any argument ‘stick’. No thanks.
We can at least cross off “the East”
OR
Everyone (seemingly) knows what the West is and how to describe,
destroy, dismiss, defund or defend it? :)
As I recently read Bruno Latour’s We Have Never Been Modern, I think “the West” fits rather neatly into Latour’s definition of modernity, whether you accept his “constitution” or not. It’s a revolutionary vision. It has contradictions embedded in it. I tend to think of the Right, broadly speaking, as antimodern and reactionary. But as you’ve written, the right is a confused mix of right-modernists like Andreesen and right-antimodernists like the others (who I haven’t read and don’t know that much about, so there are probably more factions). But there are both left and right modernists who want to spread the Western revolution, right?